The serial is stamped on the back of the neck however. 88" at the 12th Bone Nut Duel action truss rod adjustment at the headstock 10mm peg holes for modern tuners 2-3/16" (55. To shim that would require a piece at the heel and it would be very visible. The overhang rests just on the top of the pickgaurd when the neck is screwed down tight. 6mm, hench my overhang clearing it, but not by much So all as per ave. 070-. A normal tele bridge should accommodate that. By: Search Advanced search…I have a customer who has a 24" scale guitar with a 21 fret neck installed, but he wants it to have a 25. . (Coming soon! Photos to show fretboard overhangs and the movement of neck pickup routes to compensate for increased fingerboard overhang on 24 fret necks. Somewhere, Wonderful. . For fretboards with multiple scale lengths this is calculated as delta x distance, distance measured along a line drawn perpendicular to the neck's midline. You first need to unglue the upper part of the fretboard that hangs out onto the soundboard by the soundhole. Reactions: Jupiter and Captain Nutslot. Details are below so I don't bore you now. There are four input modes for overhang. The fretboard overhang is the distance from the center of outer strings to edge of nut or bridge. . I'm not sure if Warmoth still offers this option. 2. It is usually referred to as a feature. shift the neck to the treble side until the spacing between the outer strings and the fretboard edge are equal. Remember me Not recommended on shared computers. 625" on the body, and standard Fender neck heel height is is . . Fretboard overhang is when a fretboard design goes over the body slightly so the neck joint can be closer to the neck, it is typically used on guitar bodies that were originally designed for 22 frets. I used a dremel to widen the arc. I have had a Tommy era never mounted all maple USAG Strat neck laying around for years so it's at the luthier for a closeish Tele headstock reshape and stainless refret for a parts build. Only used one is in Italy, too much $ with shipping. Jun 2, 2023. 5" scale. g. However, he is talking about putting a 21 fret neck where there was a 22 fret neck before, so there may not have been an overhang on it because the guitar was produced with a 22 fret neck, and would likely have the bridge placed accordingly. Cutting down a truss. Either the heel of the neck get trimmed down or the pocket in the body has to be expanded. 88" at the 12th Bone Nut Dual action truss rod adjustment at the headstock &10mm peg holes for modern tuners. If there is not gap, there is the potential that the very bottom of the fretboard will contact the pickguard and in some cases, that pressure can cause the fretboard at that position to "ski ramp" up and cause all kinds of issues with fret. I saw a few minor cosmetic flaws, like yellow paint sprayed on the edge of the fretboard overhang and what looked like buffed out file markings on the tail end of the fretboard. What a wonderfull collection of guitars you guys have in here!!! All new in the DIY guitarworld and I am having a bit of trouble. Compatibility Issues. For fretboards with multiple scale lengths this is calculated as delta x distance, distance measured along a line drawn perpendicular to the neck's midline. Jan 14, 2012 #7. - Mounting screws would poke into the control cavity. I tried to put a neck on it already however, The neck is just slightly off at the bottom left portion of the heel and slightly crooked. I had to file the pickguard back out of the way. Teles have squared ends and wider necks than strats, while strats have curved, rounded. RichThis is a question that has been baffling me about my next strat design. 5 radius fretboard approx . . It's going to be a 22 fret neck w/ a 25. 1,649 206. Dec 21, 2005 #10 BLACKCAT69 Friend of Leo's. Black limba A2: 8lb 2oz. 25. I noticed in pictures, the 2019 players neck has the fretboard overhang at the heel. Jan 11, 2021 #16To my standards 3. GameStop Moderna Pfizer Johnson & Johnson AstraZeneca Walgreens Best Buy Novavax SpaceX Tesla. "," (Please note, in FretFind the first string is shown on the far right "," where the high E string would be on a typical right-handed guitar. Business, Economics, and Finance. It does not need to be much but some. Download Article. Use the steam to gently loosen up any glue that's holding together the neck and fretboard. It features a maple fretboard with abalone dots, bone nut, and high gloss headstock. We need to raise that fretboard up 3/8″, so we reduce our too-deep 1. 81" at the first fret , . 09375 inches, but for all I know that's only appropriate for guitar. The former offers possibilities, the latter does not. About This Listing. 5" and the neck is made to fit a Fender guitar it should be fine, however. For fretboards with multiple scale lengths this is calculated as delta x distance, distance measured along a line drawn perpendicular to the neck's midline. 0″ (or 8/8″) – 3/8″ = 5/8″. The neck pocket shapes are different and one will not fit or intonate with the other. Your example doesn't look well-crafted, but I don't know if that's typical for Epiphone. After I mark and drill the pickguard mounting holes and mount it, I notice the pickguard is slightly overhanging the neck pocket. - Pickup wiring would need to be routed differently. It doesn't look like Warmoth/Allparts/etc. For these particular cigar box guitar plans I used maple and black walnut for the neck, headstock, fretboard and fretboard markers as well as the bridge. Lemon oil for the fretboard, which is a very nice Rosewood. I think Robert has the right idea. I work out the fretboard dimensions using those plus 3mm either side for string overhang. This guitar will be a surprise gift for a friend with a lot of personal meaning. Messages. Thing is, this neck with it's extra fret doesn't have a fretboard overhang, the heel is deeper. The neck pocket shapes are different and one will not fit or intonate with the other. We have seen guitars where people bolted the neck on, not realizing the overhang of the fretboard was holding the neck up out of the pocket. On a Dlx 5 string,. iamlowsound. The pickguard slipped under the 22nd fret overhang without any modification. It would have a Fender style neck pocket, probably with a fretboard overhang. But, on necks with 22 or less frets, the neck PU is placed on the octave harmonic. I don't know if the 21-fret models just have a fretboard overhang, or not. Vibrato bridges. 090 thick. Up-bow when its unstrung is also a little strange, but its how it plays when strung that matters. Retighten the neck screws. Haven't been much of a Tele person over the years but find myself wanting one now. The result is a 0,5mm overhang of the fretboard on the neck at the 22nd fret. It has a Fender neck and they worked out fine. A straightedge along the fretplane falls 2,5 mm below top of bridge and there is a clear change of neck angle at 14th fret. New media New comments Search media. Regular length neck screws would go through fretboard. Mark all of the frets with your black marker again. As title says, tried tinkering w/ several neck types, but seems I could get 24 frets only on modern necks, so not sure if this is available for vintage/modern. It is now ugly, but playable. necessary to add 1 or 2 strings in order to get a low tunning sound character and increasing the number of frets on the fretboard to 30 frets, the more new. A Warmoth is based on vintage Fender specs and a 21 fret neck, a 22 fret version has a fretboard overhang. Joined Oct 25, 2008 Messages 5,211 Reaction score 1,736. Joined Jan 4, 2021 Posts 74 Age 48 Location Indiana. . The pickguard certainly looks homemade. number of strings = 4. GameStop Moderna Pfizer Johnson & Johnson AstraZeneca Walgreens Best Buy Novavax SpaceX Tesla. Modifications/Repairs: previous neck reset, top patch near bridge, top crack repair treble side next to fretboard overhang. Check out this video from Warmoth: which explains their "720 mod" option on their bodies which effects this gap. Not at all cheap, but well worth it IMO. On a Dlx 5 string, the 24th fret is alot easier to reach. 25in) solid. The fretboard overhang on the body is normal. 00. Use the info above to assist you in choosing the correct parts. It needed a neck reset as the action was more than 1/3 of an inch! I used a saw to cut the neck heel and then bolted it back together. 92" at the 12th Bone Nut Duel action truss rod adjustment at the headstock 10mm peg holes for modern tuners 2-3/16" (55. 92" at the 12thBone NutDuel action truss rod adjustment at the headstock 10mm peg hole. Jul 16, 2012 #14 hammer40 said:From the pictures in your other thread and the pdf, it looks to me as if maybe you are missing the fretboard overhang. I just don't want to screw things up any worse. It is fairly easy to do with the right tools. #1. Back when Floyd Rose designed the system we all know and have a love/hate relationship with, there were no such things as locking tuners or Graphtech nuts. Perfectly set up for those Jeff Beck style flutters. Empty any old water out of the iron and add fresh water. This neck fits most Strat® style guitar except below: Roadhouse Strat® - 22 fret neck with no fretboard overhang. Direct typing of inches or metric is a nice feature too, without having to switch between the two measurement systems globally. Generally, fretboard extensions and neck joints seem to have become more massive on full sized archtops over time. 5-3mm . There are very few necks like that. I have needed to do it on a few guitars including my #1 guitar. The result is a 0,5mm overhang of the fretboard on the neck at the 22nd fret. There's a seller on Ebay selling tele necks. #1. 5 scale length, but it is longer than my fender neck (at the heel?) and I’m concerned about the alignment to the bridge if I insert it into the body. 5mm pickgaurd is standard 3 ply at around 2. This is an excellent idea, IMHO. Fits Tele style bodies Specs: Paddle headstock Roasted maple neck 22 jumbo frets, with fretboard overhang 9. )The Acoustic Guitar Forum > General Acoustic Guitar and Amplification Discussion > Build and Repair: Good fretboard overhang?Fretboard Overhang (mm) Perpendicular Fret. Screw holes lined up pretty well. Special upgrades include a Badass II bridge, Greasebucket master tone, graphite-reinforced neck, and a '70s headstock logo. If you like that position, it might work well. Tried. Fretboards have a certain radius on the surface, and values from 7-20 inches are commonly seen. Just unboxed a DIY kit and test fitted the neck. The large file stays over the finish and doesn't damage it at all, but takes the fret ends down nicely. 2: that seems like a lot to me as well, but I don't have enough experience with. . Will this work on a standard p bass body. The neck pictured is the exact neck you will receive. I’m looking for a 20 fretter, I like the older 5 inline Jazz necks, have one on my jazz build, that bass sounds incredible. 2455, fret height (dont measure the tang, jus the crown) is . Either method works. Is it just so that there isn't a gap under the fretboard overhang if you have a 22 fret board and no scratchplate? Forums. Well, a few months ago, I happened to notice that there is quite a gap between the fretboard overhang and the pickguard, which my other Strats don't have. I would leave it, its not uncommon to have a overhang, also cutting 0. Mar 25, 2017. Messages 24,425. I'm guessing that, the fretboard overhangs a bit? Here's a photo from a Stu-Mac kit. My question conerns the position of the pickguard. You do need the fretboard overhang like a strat but that's no biggie as well. Some strat necks have a little fretboard overhang with an extra fret that goes over the body a little bit. GameStop Moderna Pfizer Johnson & Johnson AstraZeneca Walgreens Best Buy Novavax SpaceX Tesla. A 1/8" (3mm) space between the fretboard overhang and the top of the body leaves enough room for a standard thickness pickguard. For fretboards with multiple scale lengths this is calculated as delta x distance,. The heat will soften the glue and the pressure willallow the fretboard and neck to slide over each other a little bit to realign under the pressure. Carefully file the fret ends so they’re flush with the fingerboard edge. Then practice *edit: I forgot you had that Peavey. Purple Drink finish, with translucent black burst (*special request to have the burst stop at the flat top) 3-piece body layer option. Close to Los Angeles, CA. I put on a white pickguard (rather, forced it on, which caused me to chip the fretboard overhang) and had a 5-way switch and Bill Lawrence pickups installed. 75" is very. Measurements are ONLY to the e’ (High e) string. What this means is that for most OEM necks the bottom of the heel to underneath the fretboard is 3/4″ or . Or just shimmy the nut over towards the high E to even. Pull the 22nd fret, cut off the fretboard end through the fret slot and see if you like it on your guitar. 1,313. It fits into Strats and Jazzmasters and converts the scale to a Gibson scale. I didn't even think of that. Screw holes lined up pretty well. 25") based on the bridges You want equal string spacing Fretboard overhang is the amount of space from the middle of the string to the edge of the fretboard, again the last String is the low string and the first String is the high string . 1. Equal: The scale length is from the nut to the bridge. The fit and finish is pretty nice all over, with the neck to body join being particularly well engineered. Display results as threads22-fret overhang necks are all headstock-adjust truss rods AFAIK. It's designed for those who are going without a pickguard and don't want a visible gap under the fretboard overhang. If this was the only problem, I'd probably just forget about it since it's going to be under the fretboard overhang and I probably won't be able to see it. Personally I wish I had gotten the 20 fret fretboard for my otherwise SUPERB Warmoth P-bass (with J-neck). The fretboard overhang is the distance from the center of outer strings to edge of nut or bridge. Tweedledee. bbarott Most Honored Senior Member. But now I have a flat fretboard again and the bass plays great and hopefully will for another 2-3 years at least. Fretboard extends 1/4" beyond neck heel. Fretboard placement lines up with the lines up with the headstock transition of the neck. I. Finally did some measuring last night and discovered that the neck pocket in the body is the correct depth (5/8"), but the distance between the FB overhang. Should I try to duplicate this, or is. This neck fits most Tele® style guitar except below: Roadhouse Strat® - 22 fret neck with no fretboard overhang. 83" at the first fret , . Cagey Senior member. It is not possible to fit a neck on a guitar without it. The pickguard would hold the heel at an angle in the pocket. See both screenshots that have the yellow highlights pointing at the areas. or could just be the. I agree with @BeeTL above that you'll probably get a natural 23 frets in that space, and you can do a slight fretboard overhang to give you your 24th fret. There is insufficient adjustment at the bridge to compensate for the reduction of the 12th. 720". Aug 2, 2011. IOW, if you conventionally and properly lay out a fanned fretboard by the two outer. 2. you can set an equal dimension for both bass and tremble sides on all the length, or set one dimension for the nut and one for the bridge that are the same on both tremble and bass sides or set all. Like this:. NO overhang 4. Thankfully, the fretboard overhang covers up my rough work there. Enter fretboard overhang: Enter number of musical tones per octave: Enter number of frets to calculate: This page should allow a person to quickly and accurately calculate the information needed to design the fretboard of a stringed instrument. AxeMan_DadMan Strat-Talker. There are also numerous distinctions between the guitars, including their scale length, pocket depth, and neck width. prorecordingworkshop. Dec 18, 2014. Most true-to-Strat-style bodies will be built for a 21-fret (no fretboard overhang) or 22-fret (with a 1-fret fretboard overhang) neck: this means, crucially, the bridge is positioned in relation to the neck pocket to accommodate and intonate with the assumption of a 21- or 22-fret neck. On 24 fret necks it has to be moved back toward the bridge some (taking it off. If you get a 22 fret neck, I believe the fretboard overhang obscures the gaps, even without the scratchplate (or pickguard as we say over here in 'Murrica). As a result, the fretboard will slightly overhang the sides of the neck heel in the upper fret areas. Prepare to Remove the Fretboard. 1,649 206. The GSR205 actually is a bit too long of a fretboard, but it appears that there's a bit of an overhang, so if I trim it enough, I'll have enough room to stick a pickup at the 24th fret position. . 0″ (or 8/8″) – 3/8″ = 5/8″. However, without the overhang, it may be difficult to adjust the saddles enough to get proper intonation. I got nothing else. 75" neck, you MUST use the Warmoth. I had to file the pickguard back out of the way. 53mm at the 22 fret, it simply wouldn't fit in the neck socket without some trimming. First of all. I did not realize the fretboard overhang prevents installing/removing an assembled pickguard unless the neck is substantially loosened. I found a new Fender Player neck, but it interestingly seems slightly shorter than the original. Fretboards have a certain radius on the surface, and values from 7-20 inches are commonly seen. I can remove the pickguard without unbolting the neck. The neck pictured is the exact neck you will receive. #14 · Mar 7, 2017. 5 - 27" scale with a fretboard overhang of . 720 Mod. My plan is to use a 25. The pic below shows the new neck on the bottom compared to my fender stock neck on the top. You will almost certainly need to cut the truss rod length down a bit, unless you can find one the right length. The joint edges on my Gibson guitars look much like on your ES-175. The gap between the fretboard and guitar body is completely normal, however in the photo it. Business, Economics, and Finance. Sign In. 56mm) heel width, fits standard Strat, Stratocaster This neck is sanded and ready for finishing. If the fretboard overhangs its heel, for example, cut some space between the pickguard and the heel so that it fits under or around the overhang. . There are very few necks like that. The fretboard overhang is the distance from the center of outer strings to edge of nut or bridge. Jan 7, 2021 #2 cfreddy813 TDPRI Member. CryptoHi, Just finished my first parts-o-caster and all in all it went ok, I can play it and everything so overall I'm chalking it up as a win. And, he demonstrates how he deals with the fretboard overhang of the tenon to ensure a uniform route. Contact me if you want something specific, otherwise I'll give you a heel adjust spokewheel or hex nut rod. Personally I wish I had gotten the 20 fret fretboard for my otherwise SUPERB Warmoth P-bass (with J-neck). GameStop Moderna Pfizer Johnson & Johnson AstraZeneca Walgreens Best Buy Novavax SpaceX Tesla. It is the same at both high and low E. May 25, 2018 #14. Joined Apr 29, 2003 Posts 2,637 Location Canada-Windsor-Ont. . Though it has the same number of frets, fret 22 is on a fretboard overhang. My 2004 50th anniversary strat has a gap between the end of the neck abs the pick guard. Quilted maple top. I was trying to model it after my RG550 neck that has an overhang for the upper frets. they don't. After I mark and drill the pickguard mounting holes and mount it, I notice the pickguard is slightly overhanging the neck pocket. Warmoth has said that the 7/8 body had been originally designed for that purpose. File the frets back. I use thin 0,5mm wood. No problem Also I didn't say ANY PREFMIC have fretboard overhang. Post Oct 04, 2020 #125 2020-10-05T03:52. It is a USACG Mustang neck. Plus we will add a heel and drill and tap it to accept a threaded rod that will be tightened against the heel trapping the front side of the box and continue through and ou the back to create a truss that will counteract string. Normally it means removing the fretboard first, but in my case the neck was already loose, so I did not have to. First guitar build, first neck build. make an aftermarket 24 fret neck that's not just a fretboard overhang (and I don't really care about the upper frets that much, but that still leaves a neck pocket gap), and I'm a little dubious about picking up one of the extremely cheap Chinese-made 24 fret necks on eBay (although as a temporary. So even though I haven't drilled holes yet, this implies my bridge position is set by the template. Hold the fine-tooth flat file against the side of the fretboard and gently drag the file from the first fret down to the last fret ( Photo 4 ). I have the current Squier Bullet which has the thinnest Strat body. Or just shimmy the nut over towards the high E to even. Reactions: cip 123. ;) Thanks, I’m going to look into this. You've read the diagram correctly. 5 radius rosewood fretboard approx . While a Gibson Les Paul will generally set you back north of $2,000, their Asia-built Epiphone cousins offer excellent bang for the buck at prices in the low-to-mid hundreds. That neck-heel mark is a little strange, who knows - maybe somebody shaved off the fretboard overhang at some point. New Orleans, LA. This body is routed for a G&L neck. 050”, 0. Switching from a 20 to. If you put a longer scale neck on a short scale body, the bridge simply must move away from the nut. 75 is more comfortable by far. Anybody. Messages 1,565. fretboard overhang = 2 mm (equal) calculation method = 12 (equal root 2) number of frets = 15. Angling the pocket avoids the issue of a gap at the back of the pocket. 0″ deep neck pocket, the top of the fretboard would be flush with the top of the guitar. Straight Fretboard End. If you want to see how it looks with 21 frets, you can do an old trick for removing necks on acoustic. Personally I wish I had gotten the 20 fret fretboard for my otherwise SUPERB Warmoth P-bass (with J-neck). If the neck thickness or the rout is different, you may have to make some adjustment to them. Their only non-22 fret guitars are the new Jazzmaster-styled. 720 Mod. 581" from there to the bridge (which will also be the measurement from the end of the neck pocket to the bridge). Super low action and plays perfectly with 10-46 gauge strings. To get the action where He wants it (2,4 mm att low E and 1,7 at high E) I´d have to lower the saddles (individual saddles. 2. 75" fretboard is clearly a different shape. The result is a 0,5mm overhang of the fretboard on the neck at the 22nd fret. Black dot inlay on fretboard; Headstock hole diameter for machine head: 10mm 4mm Allen wrench provided for truss rod adjustment at the headstock. Sometimes it is a case of just an overhang for the extra frets, sometimes the heel moved and designed specificially for that neck. By far the most common pickguard thicknesses are either . 5" scale. 015 of fall-away at the last fret when comparing to the fret at the body joint. Last edited: Aug 8, 2020. . 82" at the first fret , . The overhang doesnt bother me visually, and its nice to have a couple more frets. Messages 10,311. That’s exactly where I’d put the pickup. Depending on the neck cost, I'm assuming my overall expenditure on the project would be in between $1300-1500 USD. But, on necks with 22 or less frets, the neck PU is placed on the octave harmonic. Standard Fender specs only allow for 20 frets, unless a fretboard overhang is present. I believe I heard this was normal to prevent cracking the underside of the fretboard when attaching the bolt neck. jazz Bass 74. I like to see about . It's the yellow one. Compatibility Issues. I, however, would much rather have you looking at my new development. The 720 Mod is available on rear-routed bodies only. Enter total playing length of string: Enter fretboard length: Enter string to string width at nut: Enter string to string width at bridge: Enter fretboard overhang: Enter number of musical tones per octave: Enter number of frets to calculate:For overhang past the fretboard, I run a large file up and down the fretboard edge. Lonestar Strat® - 22 fret neck with no fingerboard overhang (21 fret version is compatible with Warmoth parts) Nashville Tele® - 22 fret neck with no fingerboard overhang. Align the bridge with the mounting and string holes. Lots of different heel dimensions, fretboard overhang and fret count will affect the intonation since your bridge mounts are predrilled. A fret leveling file is also good for this job; I just happen to prefer the finer cut of. The fretboard overhang is the distance from the center of outer strings to edge of nut or bridge. The gap between the neck and body might be a little weird, but if the four screw holes match up, you’re probably fine. The fretboard overhang is typical on many hollowbody instruments, as it allows more of the top to vibrate. If I account for fretboard overhang and pickup rings how far sh. . janeray1940 Active member. I can also clearly see there. This guitar will be a surprise gift for a friend with a lot of personal meaning. CryptoThe Harmony came to me almost unplayable. THere ya go Yon - View attachment 959646 View attachment 959647 The pictures are pretty terrible, but you get the idea anyhow It's a 24" scale 21 fret neck with a spoke-wheel truss rod adjuster mounted at the heel. Then I repeated this entire procedure near the bridge, since my strings are spaced at equal spaces at BOTH the nut and the bridge. 608. You've read the diagram correctly. The 720 Mod is available on rear-routed bodies only. The gap between the neck and body. What I need help with is the nut and bridge measurements. 095" so it's not like there's a gaping maw sitting there screaming for attention. Hi there Just received an LPS carved top body and Warmoth neck and have a query about the fit. Hey folks, got a chance to land a nice deal on a 2019 MiM players Strat Pao Ferro neck. Resources. Alright then, well I'm drawing up plans for my 1st build, an RR, and I can't seem to figure out how much space there should be. trock. Most Warmoth bodies and necks use the Strat®-shaped heel and neck pocket as standard. It fits into Strats and Jazzmasters and converts the scale to a Gibson scale. frank falbo SS. A G&L neck fills the entire neck pocket. I’m by no means a Gretsch expert and was only posting my limited personal experience. Given its age, it's understandable that this guitar has undergone some maintenance over the years. Big Apple Strat® - 22 fret neck with no fretboard overhangMarty, my neck is 1" (25. As to overhang, I usually cut the slots as far as the strings, so the fretboard overhang is the non-cut portion. Builder: Valenti Basses. Width and radius are very imporant, to the point I won't even look at narrower than 42mm or less than 9. In short, unless someone has done a lot of reengineering, I don't think having less fretboard overhang by itself will help the sound. . These are the 4 guitars that don't quite individually fit my criteria. Likewise, the Saddles need to be closer to the nut for shorter scale. String width at the nut looks to be about 5" (127mm) String width at bridge looks to be about 180mm (7. Before I order the neck and end up with a headache in the shop trying to make this work, is this a possibility?I've done this exactly once, Les Paul Custom just like you. Using an overhang also means replacement parts remain compatible, e. All kinds of materials are used for this. As on the 22-fret Am Pro jazzmaster, Am Performer, and Player. Rear Natural Clear body. It is unusual compared to other Cole's Eclipse examples I can see on the net in that it has a fretboard overhang from the 18th fret to the 22nd. Medium Jumbo Wide (6150)On a 50's 175 this distance was around 9/16", while vintage Guilds and Epi archtops are closer to 1/2" or slightly less.